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Same disappointment with me. I once extensively used Flitemap on my notebook for flights throughout europe. Now with the iOS-based JeppFD VFR most of the outstanding features like weather download and integrating the data in the flightlog etc are missing. Progress of the app is way too slow.
Distance rings would be really nice

Ich kann mich noch sehr gut daran erinnern, als Markus das Produkt anlässlich des Seminars "VFR-Flüge ins Europäische Ausland" von PuF in Egelsbach am 24.03.2013 zum ersten Mal einer breiteren Piloten-Öffentlichkeit mit einem gewissen Stolz als "deutsche Entwicklung" für die VFR-Fliegerei vorstellte. Ich war von dem Produkt, insbesondere aber von der Strategie überzeugt, nämlich eine möglichst leicht handhabbare, schnell – quasi intuitiv - bedienbare Applikation zu entwickeln, die einen nicht davon abhält, sondern dabei unterstützt, ohne große Umwege zu dem zu kommen, was man ja eigentlich beabsichtigt: mit einem Flugzeug zu fliegen!

In diesem Forum findet man in den letzten 6 Monaten u.a. Einträge von der Gruppe der - ich will sie mal nennen - "fliegenden Programmierern", die schon die Krise kriegen, wenn sie nicht jeden Monat mit einem Update voller Tools und Gadgets bedient werden, die für das eigentliche Fliegen keinen Mehrwert bringen und die offenbar aus dem Produkt eine eierlegende Wollmilchsau machen wollen. Das braucht keiner, der wirklich fliegen will! Das entspricht auch nicht der sinnvollen Strategie eines praktikablen Programmes für den VFR-Piloten in Europa / USA. Weniger (das aber bitte gut!) ist an dieser Stelle mehr.

Auf der anderen Seite (wir kommen zum "Weniger") bleibt Jeppesen aber vieles von dem, was man im Rahmen der oben genannten sinnvolle Strategie tatsächlich für die Vorbereitung und Durchführung eines VfR-Fluges in Europa neben dem bisher vorhandenem benötigt, bis heute schuldig.

Angesichts der aufgerufenen Preise (vergleiche Beitrag von Mack Donald v. 22.11) ist das genauso ärgerlich, wie das Sperren der Karten nach Ablauf des jeweiligen Gültigkeitszeitraumes.

Die Zeiten, als ich das Produkt schwärmerisch gelobt habe, sind einer Enttäuschung gewichen, die sich angesichts der Tatsache breitmacht, dass außer der Bereinigung von Fehlern und der Programmierung von wenigen Basics nennenswerte Verbesserungen bei dem Programm ausgeblieben sind. Vor dem Hintergrund der Kosten, die erforderlich sind, das Programm zu erwerben und sinnvoll zu betreiben (entsprechendes Kartenmaterial), ist dies objektiv zu wenig. Die Benchmark ist der Wettbewerb und dieser scheint in vielen schneller, kompetenter und vor allem: Kundenfreundlicher. Am Ende erfolgt dann leider die Abstimmung mit Füßen für ein Produkt, was meines Erachtens die Chance hätte, selbst der Maßstab zu werden.

Vielleicht kann hier einer der Verantwortlichen für die beteiligten Kreise einmal konkret den Umfang und das Datum der entsprechenden Releases für die Verbesserungen und Erweiterungen benennen, die wir als Kunden erwarten.

Frohe Weihnacht

Hi guys

Like many of you, I've tested and flown (within LSAS) with the following three apps in order to choose the right fit for me:

- AirNav Pro (incl. Desktop)
- SkyDemon
- JFD VFR

My criteria was/is:

a) ease of use for prep and in-flight
b) appearance and legibility of charts
c) fun to use

I did not take into consideration any other criteria such as the items stated on the various "wish lists" in this thread, since I rather fly than get stuck with and/or distracted by a plethora of options, buttons, features, visual clog etc.

So today I decided to swop my JFD VFR trial for a one year subscription. Why?

Well I just like the way JFD VFR feels. You know, it's got all you need. It's reduced to the max with no need to stuff more into it. The easy zooming, the zen-like charts, the high contrast - it's just like using a mac or an ipad.

We all love to fly. Yours truly included. By doing so I also love to prep my mission. It is then when I get to notice potential airspace conflicts, MET issues, NOTAMs etc. It's my duty as an airman...

Sure I'd like Markus and his buddies to add the odd feature to the app. But, heck, it's always easier to beef things up rather than to reduce to the basic needs (but then again not too much).

So for all you out there in the process of evaluating NAV apps and flight planning options - if you like it simple, safe and sexy (like an ipad or a Mac) and would rather fly than "get stuck" - then go for JFD VFR.

But If you'd rather go for a PhD for flight preping, inflight workload management, and feature fatigue, then I suggest to take the other route(s). 

Happy Landings!

Steve

((got no stake in Boeing nor Jeppesen))

Great statement, I fully support your opinion.

Rene


Steve Loepfe said:

Hi guys

Like many of you, I've tested and flown (within LSAS) with the following three apps in order to choose the right fit for me:

- AirNav Pro (incl. Desktop)
- SkyDemon
- JFD VFR

My criteria was/is:

a) ease of use for prep and in-flight
b) appearance and legibility of charts
c) fun to use

I did not take into consideration any other criteria such as the items stated on the various "wish lists" in this thread, since I rather fly than get stuck with and/or distracted by a plethora of options, buttons, features, visual clog etc.

So today I decided to swop my JFD VFR trial for a one year subscription. Why?

Well I just like the way JFD VFR feels. You know, it's got all you need. It's reduced to the max with no need to stuff more into it. The easy zooming, the zen-like charts, the high contrast - it's just like using a mac or an ipad.

We all love to fly. Yours truly included. By doing so I also love to prep my mission. It is then when I get to notice potential airspace conflicts, MET issues, NOTAMs etc. It's my duty as an airman...

Sure I'd like Markus and his buddies to add the odd feature to the app. But, heck, it's always easier to beef things up rather than to reduce to the basic needs (but then again not too much).

So for all you out there in the process of evaluating NAV apps and flight planning options - if you like it simple, safe and sexy (like an ipad or a Mac) and would rather fly than "get stuck" - then go for JFD VFR.

But If you'd rather go for a PhD for flight preping, inflight workload management, and feature fatigue, then I suggest to take the other route(s). 

Happy Landings!

Steve

((got no stake in Boeing nor Jeppesen))

Gentlemen,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback.  The design concept was to keep the app simple to use with functonality that truly assists in safe VFR navigation.  With that said. we will have some great enhancements this year, so keep an eye out for those!

Happy Flying!

Rene Steiner said:

Great statement, I fully support your opinion.

Rene


Steve Loepfe said:

Hi guys

Like many of you, I've tested and flown (within LSAS) with the following three apps in order to choose the right fit for me:

- AirNav Pro (incl. Desktop)
- SkyDemon
- JFD VFR

My criteria was/is:

a) ease of use for prep and in-flight
b) appearance and legibility of charts
c) fun to use

I did not take into consideration any other criteria such as the items stated on the various "wish lists" in this thread, since I rather fly than get stuck with and/or distracted by a plethora of options, buttons, features, visual clog etc.

So today I decided to swop my JFD VFR trial for a one year subscription. Why?

Well I just like the way JFD VFR feels. You know, it's got all you need. It's reduced to the max with no need to stuff more into it. The easy zooming, the zen-like charts, the high contrast - it's just like using a mac or an ipad.

We all love to fly. Yours truly included. By doing so I also love to prep my mission. It is then when I get to notice potential airspace conflicts, MET issues, NOTAMs etc. It's my duty as an airman...

Sure I'd like Markus and his buddies to add the odd feature to the app. But, heck, it's always easier to beef things up rather than to reduce to the basic needs (but then again not too much).

So for all you out there in the process of evaluating NAV apps and flight planning options - if you like it simple, safe and sexy (like an ipad or a Mac) and would rather fly than "get stuck" - then go for JFD VFR.

But If you'd rather go for a PhD for flight preping, inflight workload management, and feature fatigue, then I suggest to take the other route(s). 

Happy Landings!

Steve

((got no stake in Boeing nor Jeppesen))

The degree of satisfaction with the product depends on your needs. In my case, JFD VFR does not meet my expectations (yet). I am based in Switzerland. If I want to fly from there south, east - or further north than Germany, I am still forced to buy the not very VFR oriented Jepp Flite Deck with europe country coverage costing me more than 300 Euros.

Also the user interface still leaves room for improvement. On the paper approach charts you had easy access to all relevant frequencies at an airport. Not so with JFD VFR. I already mentioned as a beta tester that it is not helpful if you don't see the ATIS frequency at a glance, you have to fiddle back and forth to get this piece of information. And: In order to read in-flight the very small print airspace limits of controlled airspace you have to zoom back and force by using two fingers on the iPAD screen. This forces me to fly more head-down time than I am comfortable with. If I have a co-pilot with me it's ok, if I fly solo it's annoying.

For flight preparation I do not have fancy things on my wish list. What I miss the most is a better integration of weather data - into the chart as well as into the pilot log. Without this, JFD VFR is lagging way behind its competitors.

Hello,

Thank You very much for the great feedback during the last couple of days. It exactly reflects the concept we have. Easy and intuitive to use, fun to use, and all that with a clear and seamless chart depiction, based on current Jeppesen navigation data. 

Jeppesen is aware that there are several countries, and also some features on the wish list. I can promise: In 2014 we will see a lot of new stuff with Mobile FliteDeck VFR !  And I can also promise: We will keep it easy and intuitive to use ! 

Stay tuned within the next couple of weeks to see the schedule for 2014 !

Thanks again, and Love VFR !

Markus

Hallo Markus Marth,

neben den vielen schon beschriebenen Wünschen für eine Erweiterung

habe ich auch noch ein paar, die aber vielleicht schon gestellt wurden:

Sichtbarer geflogener Track

Ständige eigene Waypoints mit eigenem Namen speicherbar

Waypoints die das Programm erzeugt mit eigenem Namen versehen

Ansonsten weiter so! Das Programm hat eine tolle Benutzeroberfläche, sieht grafisch gesehen gut aus und funktioniert auch so! Weniger ist auch da mehr!

Grüße

Joachim Schreiber

Custom Waypoints sind immer noch ein elementares Feature, was fehlt. Die Helikopter-spezifischen Reporting Points für kontrollierte Flugplätze in der Schweiz fehlen ja schon mal alle in der Datenbank, und man hat noch nicht mal die Möglichkeit, diese manuell nachzutragen. Ausserdem ist es für Helikopterpiloten relevant, beliebige Koordinaten von Landestellen einzutragen, zu denen man öfters fliegt. 

Hallo Joachim Schreiber,
vielen Dank für das Feedback und wir freuen uns zu hören, dass Mobile FliteDeck VFR größtenteils Ihren Wünschen gerecht wird. Ein paar der erwähnten Punkte werden definitiv in den kommenden Releases umgesetzt, aber wann dies der Fall sein wird, kann ich zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt leider noch nicht angeben. Definitiv werden wir jedoch versuchen der "Weniger ist mehr"-Devise treu zu bleiben, denn erfahrungsgemäß findet die einfache und intuitive Benutzeroberfläche sehr viel Zuspruch!

Für das Mobile FliteDeck VFR Team,
Ahmad



Joachim Schreiber said:

Hallo Markus Marth,

neben den vielen schon beschriebenen Wünschen für eine Erweiterung

habe ich auch noch ein paar, die aber vielleicht schon gestellt wurden:

Sichtbarer geflogener Track

Ständige eigene Waypoints mit eigenem Namen speicherbar

Waypoints die das Programm erzeugt mit eigenem Namen versehen

Ansonsten weiter so! Das Programm hat eine tolle Benutzeroberfläche, sieht grafisch gesehen gut aus und funktioniert auch so! Weniger ist auch da mehr!

Grüße

Joachim Schreiber

Thanks for the recent update.  The presentation of NOTAM data is much cleaner and more concise, that is probably the most important improvement in this update.  Customizing the track line helps declutter the information displayed on screen.  Not sure yet about the airspace warnings, have not had a chance to see how that works.

On the other hand, after much anticipation, the updates seem, well, very minor.  I still prefer the chart appearance of  the Jepp product over the government sectionals for inflight situational awareness, but, the app still has very significant short comings.

You really can't use it for flight planning the way you can most every other flight app out there:

1) You can't accurately calculate estimated ground speed before takeoff, because it does not bring in the winds aloft data from the weather services, and you have to manually input winds into the first leg of  a trip, which are then assumed by the app to the same for all subsequent legs.  (Worse than useless, its wrong)

2) There is no TFR overlay

3) There is no radar overlay

Other than that I wish there was another way to bring up airport data besides zoom down and hunt for the magic spot on the screen that will bring up the data.  I know what I am supposed to click on but most of the time when I do either nothing happens or get airspace information.  For landing I pretty much switch over to foreflght and bring up the FAA airport diagram which has everything I need displayed on it. 

I have heard that at least 1) to 3) are in the works any idea when they will be out?

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